Hi, Robert, can you talk right now?
I safely got into the room.
I'm now safely with the client, okay?
So, can we talk together about the plan?
Did this application start already or what? Technically?
Yeah, but...
So technically it hasn't started yet.
Would you mind to talk in speakerphone?
Sorry.
Hey, Robert.
Yeah, hi.
Hi, Edward, how are you holding up?
Okay, I just met with the head of the UNHCR here in Hong Kong,
and they are aware that you are raising
the protection you are entitled to under the UNHCR and
and they would like you to come in with us to the UN.
If you come now, it's lunchtime,
but they're gonna let us in. No one else can get in.
At the UNHCR there are separate exits from the building
so we have a good opportunity,
if any of the media finds out you're there...
...you'll be able to exit a different way from the building.
Just walk out of there. You don't have to go back.
Take whatever you want with you, and just go with Mr. Man.
I will pick you... he knows where I'm gonna pick you guys up,
and then I'll bring you to the UNHCR.
He's quite worried about the next step,
about accommodation, where he is going to stay,
whether there is something private and he would not be discovered by the police.
Don't worry about that now. Let's just get him to the UN.
Okay, I see.
Okay, I will give you a call before we start, okay?
- Okay, thank you. - Okay, thank you.
- Bye-bye. - Bye.
So...
We don't have a car.
What I'm thinking...
we may ask the concierge to arrange a car,
or we just go down and catch a taxi.
But it's quite...
The traffic here in Tsim Sha Tsui is quite difficult to get a taxi.
No, I'm not aware of.
But if we have a torture claim
or asylum-seeking claim,
then they ought, under the law,
they ought to give you recognizance
for you to stay in Hong Kong
because they don't know where to dump you back yet.
"The US Spied on Millions of Brazilian Emails and Phone Calls"
I'd like to show you the new document now.
You'll see it much more clearly.
This map shows the cables they use to collect the data for PRISM.
Here it shows how much they are collecting.
The thicker the line, the more they're collecting.
You can see these lines,
the cables, are quite thick in the south of Brazil
and up north in the Sea of Brazil.
So they're collecting a lot through the PRISM program,
which I think is very important because PRISM is Facebook,
Skype, YouTube, Yahoo, Hotmail.
And it shows a lot is being stolen from Brazil.
But we don't know how much the Brazilian government knows,
or whether it's collaborating with Brazilian companies.
But we're going to know, I believe.
One day we will know everything. Or almost everything.
Yes.
The floor is yours, for the time that you deem necessary.
Thank you and hello.
First of all, Americans' justification for everything
since the September 11 attacks is terrorism.
Everything is in the name of national security,
to protect our population.
In reality, it's the opposite. A lot of the documents
have nothing to do with terrorism or national security,
but with competition between countries,
and with companies' industrial, financial, or economic issues.
Secondly, there's XKeyscore.
When we first started publishing articles,
the US government's defense
was that it was not invading the content of communications,
just taking the metadata.
That means the names of the people talking,
who is calling whom, call durations.
But if I know all the people you are communicating with,
and everyone they are communicating with,
where you are when you are communicating,
the call duration and the location,
then I can learn a lot about your personality,
your activity, and your life.
This is a major invasion of privacy.
In reality, that defense is totally false.
The US government has the ability to get not only metadata,
but the actual content of your emails or what you say on the phone,
the words you type into Google searches,
the websites you visit,
the documents you send to colleagues.
This system can track nearly everything that every individual is doing online.
So if you're a journalist investigating the American government,
if you work for a company with American competitors,
or if you work in human rights involving the American government,
or any other field,
they can very easily intercept your communication.
If you're an American living in the US,
they have to seek permission from a court,
but they always get it.
But if you're not American, they don't need anything,
no special permission at all.
I think the consequences of eliminating privacy are difficult to predict,
but we must understand that this will have an enormous impact.
The population's ability to have demonstrations
or to organize is greatly reduced when people don't have privacy.